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Des nouvelles de python: Sun supporte Jython et Python, Django, Mailman3 (MM3, REST), Barry Warsaw reçoit le prix Pizzigati pour GNU/Mailman

Posted by patrick sur mars 6, 2008

Jython et Sun

http://ironpython-urls.blogspot.com/2008/03/ironpython-has-serious-competition-sun.html (« In September 2006 Sun hired two JRuby developers to improve the story of dynamic languages on the JVM. This was seen by many as both long overdue and a response to Microsoft developing IronPython (and the Dynamic Language Runtime) for .NET. As Jython has been around for longer than JRuby, many in the Python community wondered why Sun weren’t supporting Python. Finally they have answered, by hiring Ted Leung and Jython lead developer Frank Wierzbicki.« )

http://www.sauria.com/blog/2008/03/03/the-sun-is-going-to-shine-on-python/ (…Over the years, I’ve met many people at Sun who understand a collaborative development style. Many of those folks are committers on Apache projects…How serious is Sun about dynamic languages and how deep does that support go? Sun is (finally?) very serious about this. As part of Sun’s new direction, Sun wants to give developers the ability to use whatever tool sets they want. Ruby, Python, PHP, Java. On or off OpenSolaris. On or off the JVM. There is an official project, John Rose’s DaVinci Machine Frank Wierzbicki, the maintainer of Jython, started at Sun last Monday, so there will be at least two of us working on Python related stuff. That includes Jython, Python support for Netbeans, and some other stuff that we haven’t quite figured out yet. We definitely will be looking for things that we can do to support CPython and the Python language as a whole. This is not just about Python on on the JVM. Sun will try to make its platforms, OpenSolaris and the JVM, the best place to develop and deploy Python applications. But at the moment that’s a goal and not a reality, so there is lots to do. )

http://fwierzbicki.blogspot.com/2008/02/jythons-future-looking-sunny.html (« …So by now you’ve probably guessed it: Sun Microsystems has hired me to work full time on Jython. They have also hired Ted Leung to represent the wider world of Python at Sun. I don’t think I can overstate just how excited I am about this. For a long time now I’ve been obsessed with Jython. Now I will be able to let my obsession take over completely…I have to especially thank Tim Bray, who has been pushing the dynamic language thing at Sun for quite a long time. I’m sure the warm welcome that I got at Sun was in no small part due to the enormous success of the JRuby work that has been going on there, so thanks to Charles Nutter and Thomas Enebo for their work. Also thanks to the many folks at Sun who have been pushing for this, including Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart. And of course thanks to all of you who use, contribute to, and talk about Jython. Jython is above all things a community effort. We should all share in the excitement. Hurray!« )

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/03/Python-at-Sun (« So, as of this morning, noted Pythonista Ted Leung and Jython lead Frank Wierzbicki are joining Sun. Plus, we’re sponsoring PyCon and have applied to join the Python Software Foundation (it turns out you not only have to contribute, you have to get voted in). So, what are these guys going to be working on? I’m not sure. While we’re using Python internally for OpenSolaris IPS, nobody would call us real experts on the language. So my opinion is that Frank and Ted need build bridges to the community and figure out how we can help; if we can pitch in as well with Python as we have with Ruby, that’d be a win/win I’d say. Quick Python trivia question: Near as I can tell, Guido works half-time on Python over at Google. Is there anyone in the world, aside from Frank and Ted, getting paid to work full-time on Python ?« )

Django

  • http://www.jacobian.org/writing/2008/feb/21/sailing-on/ (« …However, I’ve been offered every Open Source developer’s dream job. Starting in March, I’ll be spending the majority of my time working on Django….So what exactly will I be doing? My job will entail a bit of internal-only closed-source development, but nearly everything I write will be Open Source. Most of my time will be spent improving Django. In the short term that’ll mean fixing tickets, working on new features, getting active branches finished and merged to trunk, and getting a one-point-omg release out the doorLast year I spent a few days in Boulder helping the Front Range Pythoneers kick off the Oracle backend for Django. It was a huge amount of fun, and I’m going to make myself available to other groups wanting to working on other similar problemsI can’t wait to spend my days hacking on Django. The best part is that this isn’t the only piece of good news about Django I’ll get to share this year. Stay tuned: 2008 is going to be huge« )

Mailman 3

  • http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/REST+Interface (« I’m interested in working on a REST-style interface for controlling Mailman. One thought: should the web UI be written atop such a REST interface? Pro: it would nicely enforce decoupling the UI and the Mailman engine, and be a good test that the REST interface supports enough functionality. Con: adds an extra layer…I’m really keen on exploring this because I do think the decoupling will be a big win. It’ll let us distribute a turnkey, standalone u/i for those who want something working out of the box, but it’ll also let integrators use the core Mailman engine in their own sites. And it won’t limit you to just Python web frameworks (A sketch of the REST interface is in the wiki at http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/REST+Interface . It’s written from the 2.1/2.2 point of view; I don’t know if mm3 reworks the basic objects so much that the REST interface no longer applies.). This interface isn’t intended to be exposed to the Internet at large, so there’s no mention of access control. It would be used as a back-end, on top of which the existing Mailman interface, or a fancy GUI application, or administrative scripts, could be built
    I think if we’re careful we can get pretty close. Ideally, we’d have
    the same REST api for both, which would give us a nice migration path, but I don’t yet know if that’s feasible. MM3 does have a more elaborate data model than MM2, but OTOH, everything is formally declared in Zope-style interfaces (and thoroughly tested… woohoo!). One thing that we have to figure out is how to represent all the metadata that currently lives in the Mailman.Gui package of 2.1/2.2. I think any web interface acting through the REST api will want that basic information, e.g. the brief and detailed descriptions of the mailing attributes (the VARHELP). I’m sure there’s a clear way to publish that through the REST api, but it might have an impact on the format used. I like JSON a lot, but html or xml might be more amenable to that type of data. OTOH, it’s all read-only so it might make sense to split it into two trees of information.
    « )

Mailman

  • http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-announce(« 
    I realize that I’ve been remiss in announcing this. My apologies. I have been awarded the 2008 Pizzigati Prize for Public Interest
    Computing for GNU Mailman. http://www.pizzigatiprize.org/
    I am deeply honored to win this prize because I believe very strongly
    in Mailman’s role in helping people communicate and organize. I want
    to thank all of you who have supported me and Mailman over the years, and I want to let you know that I am as excited as ever about where Mailman is going. One of the most satisfying aspects of this project for me has been meeting you, the users, developers and contributors to Mailman, both online and face-to-face. I’m looking forward to meeting the Pizzigati family and having some time to spend with them learning about Anthony’s remarkable life, sadly cut too short. So again, thank you all and I’m looking forward to the next 10 years of GNU Mailman!Cheers,
    – -Barry »)
  • http://www.pizzigatiprize.org/news/press_releases/barry_warsaw_named_second_annual_winner_of_the_10,000_pizzigati_prize.html (« San Francisco, January 30, 2008— Tides Foundation announces the winner of the second annual $10,000 Pizzigati Prize. Barry Warsaw, a software developer dedicated to identifying and solving the technological problems that confront social change movements, has won the Antonio Pizzigati Prize for Software in the Public Interest.
    Barry Warsaw is being recognized for his work as the lead developer of GNU Mailman, the open source application that hundreds of nonprofits around the world are now using to manage electronic mail discussions and e-newsletter lists. The Pizzigati Prize — an award program launched two years ago by Tides Foundation’s Florence and Frances Family Fund — aims to honor individuals who, in the spirit of open source computing, fashion outstanding applications that help nonprofits become more effective in their ongoing social change efforts. “Barry Warsaw has displayed, over the years, a powerful personal commitment to the ideals behind the Pizzigati Prize,” notes Jason Sanders, Tides Philanthropic Advisor who coordinates the prize competition. “His work has demonstrated vision and inspired innovation in public interest computing
    .« )

2 Réponses to “Des nouvelles de python: Sun supporte Jython et Python, Django, Mailman3 (MM3, REST), Barry Warsaw reçoit le prix Pizzigati pour GNU/Mailman”

  1. I found lots of intresting things here. Thanks!

  2. Jason said

    REST interface Mailman is really cool. Like it!🙂

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